Thirteen Midos 08 – Rabbi Akiva and Rabbi Yishmael

In this shiur Rabbi Triebitz looks to the disagreement between Rabbi Yishmael and Rabbi Akiva and claims that it shows two differing world-views in the concept of midos. The issues between them are whether the Torah was given all at Mount Sinai, or whether only the general principles were given there, while the details were explained in Ohel Moed.

Furthermore, Rabbi Akiva famously learned mountains of halachot from every crown on every letter of the Torah, obviating the need for formal midos.

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