Monthly Archives: March 2010

Haggadah 04

Rabbi Triebitz will be giving a few shiurim on the haggadah shel Pesach. this is the first shiur.

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Sources of Halacha 09 – Chazon Ish

Rabbi Meir Triebitz discusses the Chazon Ish and his understanding of the argument between the Magen Avraham and the Vilna Gaon regarding times of Shema and davening. Having established last week that none of the Rishonim or Acharonim argue on the Magen Avraham, yet the Vilna Gaon rejects his opinion based on a Yerushalmi in Pesachim, the Chazon Ish gives guidance regarding p’sak.

The Gaon is in siman 459:5 and can be found on hebrewbooks.org and the following several pages.

The Chazon Ish is in Orech Chaim 13, and the two letters at the end of that siman. He also discusses the length of a mil in Hilchos Pesach siman 123.

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Haggadah 03

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Haggadah 02

Rabbi Triebitz will be giving a few shiurim on the haggadah shel Pesach. this is the first shiur.

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Haggadah 01

Rabbi Triebitz will be giving a few shiurim on the haggadah shel Pesach. this is the first shiur.

This series of shiurim will focus on a rationalist approach to the compilation/format of the Pesach hagada. Leaving aside the many complicated and lengthy drashoth of rishonim and aharonim, which intend to link various sections of the hagada mystically, Rabbi Triebitz sets out to explain the overall shita (position) of the Baal Hagada (author of Hagada – one of the gaonim) from associated Talmudic passages, how this shita is actively incorporated into the formatting of the hagada’s nusach (word choice/order), and the related logical reasons behind the structure of the hagada in several places.

Shiur 1. Mitzva of Seepur Yitziath Mitzrayim and structure of the Hagadah illuminated with 2 girsa (text) changes advocated by Rabbi Triebitz.

The central mitzvah of the hagadah is the seepur yitziath mitzrayim – the process of telling over the story of the Exodus from Egypt on seder night – a deoraita Mitzvath aseh, written explicitly in the Torah and as the Rambam codifies in Mishne Torah hilchoth chametz u’matzah chapter 7. A machloketh exists in the Talmud Bavli (Pesachim 116a) between Rav and Shmuel over the language of the mishna, which describes the performance of this mitzvah: mathil beegnuth umsayaim bshevach – Begin with disgrace and conclude with praise. The Talmud reports, Rav says disgrace refers to us reciting that “Our forefathers were idolators.” Shmuel says, disgrace refers to saying, “we were slaves.”

In addition, after concluding with praise, the mishnah also reports that we then darshan (explicate with rabbinical exegesis) the verse in Parshath Ki Tavo, “arami oved avi” (my father was a wandering Aramean) until the conclusion of that parsha. These three basic requirements, to begin with disgrace, conclude with praise, and then darshan the verses from Ki Tavo, summarize the basic outline of the hagadah and what chazal required for fulfilling the mitzvah of seepur yitziath mitzrayim on the night of Pesach.

We are left with questions: Did the Baal Hagadah pasken by Rav or Shmuel? How is Rav’s opinion related to the Exodus? Why are there so many additional sections added to the nusach of the hagadah besides these 3 requirements? For example, after the “manishtana,” we have the verse quoted, “We were slaves to Pharoah in Egypt and Hashem our God took us out of there with a strong arm and outstretched hand.” We appear to fulfill the requirements of Shmuel to accomplish beginning with disgrace with this verse. However what follows is a deeyuk (derived implication) in the verse and further explanation, a tosephta quoting the story of 5 Tanaim in Bnei Brak, a mishna from Brachoth dealing with kriath shema, then a blessing of sorts – “Baruch Hamakom” – followed by the four sons. And finally, after the four sons, the hagadah appears to then recount the basic story again in accordance with the shita of Rav! Why did we include the position of both Shmuel and Rav and why do they appear as such, spaced throughout the hagadah?

Rabbi Triebitz explains a few critical points that make these issues and others very clear to us. The Baal Hagadah paskened according to both opinions (Rav and Shmuel), with Shmuel appearing first as more directly related to the story of Exodus. However, the Baal Hagadah makes a deeyuk in the Shmuel-associated pasuk “Avadim hayinu” – We were slaves – with a three point explanation of the verse concluding with the chiddush of the baal hagadah which is not found in Chazal. Namely, the more engrossed one is in telling the seepur of yitziath mitzrayim, the more meritorious it is (Haray zeh meshubah).

Because this crucial point was a chiddush of the Baal Hagadah not said explicitly by chazal, the Baal Hagadah then inserts his proof – The tosephta of the 5 tannaim in Bnei Brak telling the seepur yetziath mitzrayim until the next morning’s zman kriath shema.

This basic fact illuminated by the Baal Hagadah, that to extend the telling of the story of Exodus is praiseworthy, explains why the baal hagadah brings Rav’s opinion later on after we have already satisfied the halachic requirements according to Shmuel’s opinion, and this explains what the Baal Hagadah accomplishes by paskening according to both. According to the Baal Hagadah, Rav’s position is not a contradiction to Shmuel’s, and while we perhaps satisfy the halachic requirement with Shmuel’s as the more pashut/simple explanation, to include Rav too is “Haray zeh meshubah,” and also touches on essential aspects of the Exodus which we would be remiss to leave out. Thus Shmuel and Rav each describe one half of a dual perspective which as a whole constitutes our essential understanding of the Exodus.

Rabbi Triebitz explains in this shiur several other matters which are clarified by this point, including the pshat (understanding of the words) in our mishna which requires us to explicate the verses of “arami oved avi,” why we make the “Baruch Hamakom” blessing as a “birchath HaTorah” and why specifically we say it immediately before the section of the 4 sons, why we bring the 4 sons and elaborate on each one.

Rabbi Treibitz also explains a few girsa (textual) changes he recommends. One is in accordance with the nusach of Rambam’s hagada as found in Mishne Torah. Rabbi Triebitz recommends a second girsa change of the text of the hagada, regarding the 4 sons, to make sense of the responses to each of the 4 sons’ questions in a most obvious and enlightening way – responses which on the surface seemed to contradict the direct responses given by the Torah itself. We leave off with an explanation of the answer to the wise son, and we will pick up in shiur #2 with the other 3 sons starting with the wicked son.

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Sources of Halacha 08 – Times of Kerias Shema

There is a well known argument between the Magen Avraham and the Vilna Gaon (and Baal HaTanya) about the latest times for davening and Shema. What is less well known is the reasons behind their argument. The Magen Avraham counts the hours from dawn (Alos HaShachar) until nightfall (Tzeis HaKochavim) whereas the Gaon counts from sunrise (HaNetz haChama) until sunset (Shkiah).

Rabbi Triebitz learns the gemara, focussing on 2 Tosefosim on 3a and 3b. There is also a Gra on 459 and a Chazon Ish in Orech Chaim (links to follow).

Next week will be the final shiur in this current series.

Please contact me if you would like to attend the shiurim in person. They are held in Jerusalem on Mondays from 5:30-6:30. Please e-mail me to find out where the secret location is.

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